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		| tlanglet 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:27 am    Post subject: Menneske Super Hard (22) |   |  
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				| I found a couple of one-step solutions, but many, many "useless" steps. Still, it was a fun puzzle to fill the time .............. 
 
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		| arkietech 
 
 
 Joined: 31 Jul 2008
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 Location: Northwest Arkansas USA
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:06 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The best I could do was a three stepper. x-wing
 skyscraper
 xy-chain
 
 What did you use for your 1 steppers?
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		| tlanglet 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | arkietech wrote: |  	  | The best I could do was a three stepper. x-wing
 skyscraper
 xy-chain
 
 What did you use for your 1 steppers?
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 Dan, I used a "useless" xy-wing with transporting (coloring) pincers.
 
 xy-wing <126> with pivot <16> at r2c6.
 Pincer <26> at r2c3 transported to r1c3 => r1c8;
 Pincer <12> at r3c5 transported to r3c6 => r6c6 => r6c4 => 47c4;
 Delete <2> r7c8.
 
 My second one-stepper was a w-wing also with transported pincers, but I can't find it now. Either the bottle of wine I had last night is still working this morning or I messed up yesterday when I originally solved the puzzle.
   
 Added Edit: After further review, I believe the "lost" w-wing solution was really a two-stepper involving a kite <1> then a w-wing <29> with transporting. However, I just found a w-wing <12> at r2c7 & r3c5 with strong link <2> in row9 that deletes <1> at r3c9.
 
 Ted
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		| Earl 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject: Menneske |   |  
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				| Best I could do was a two-step: x-wing (5), w-wing (19).
 
 Earl
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		| arkietech 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:05 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | tlanglet wrote: |  	  | xy-wing <126> with pivot <16> at r2c6. Pincer <26> at r2c3 transported to r1c3 => r1c8;
 Pincer <12> at r3c5 transported to r3c6 => r6c6 => r6c4 => 47c4;
 Delete <2> r7c8.
 
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 Excellent find! I finally figured it out.
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		| storm_norm 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:27 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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 the black boxes are the useless xy-wing
 
 the blue lines are the extensions on candidate 2.
 
 the red lines are the pincers and eliminations.
 
 (2=6)r2c3-(6=1)r2c6-(1=2)r3c5-(2)r9c5=(2)r9c7; r2c7<>2
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		| keith 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:54 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| One-stepper: ravel's half M-wing. 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +-------------+-------------+-------------+ | 7   1   26  | 3   8   5   | 4   29  69  |
 | 8   5   26  | 9   4   16  | 12b 3   7   |
 | 3   9   4   | 7   12a 126 | 8   5   16  |
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 | 59  3   159 | 8   15  7   | 6   4   2   |
 | 2   8   15  | 4   6   19  | 159 7   3   |
 | 6   4   7   | 25  3   129 | 159 8   159 |
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 | 1   6   3   | 25  259 8   | 7   29  4   |
 | 59  2   8   | 1   7   4   | 3   6   59  |
 | 4   7   59  | 6  -29  3   |259c 1   8   |
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 <1> in a forces <1> in b (but not vice-versa).  Strong link bc on <2>.  Eliminating <2> in R9C5.
   
 Keith
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